Does our society need journalism?
Every society needs verified information, and that is precisely what journalism provides. It gives access to information that is as close to the truth as possible, making it central to the proper functioning of a democracy. Journalism is at the heart of this dynamic: it enables citizens to be informed, to understand diverse points of view and to form their own opinion. Another aspect that is often minimised, but equally essential in my view, is that journalists create a link between citizens, between different population groups in our country and between communities. Finally, there is a third dimension. Journalism helps people find their bearings in their daily lives by tackling subjects that are sometimes considered less serious but which correspond to the expectations of the public; they are also topics that may be discussed with family, friends or at the coffee machine. Fostering debate is also one of the roles of journalism.
Yet businesses, authorities and politicians now have various means at their disposal to communicate directly through their own channels.
Indeed, the media are now just one channel of information among many others. Complexity has increased. The question therefore how this channel can differentiate itself from others.
Does journalism still have a unique niche?
Yes, because it meets objectives and requirements that are different from those of other content producers. Particularly in the fundamental difference between information and communication. Journalism is defined by a series of ethical and deontological principles, both individual and collective, that differentiate it from other stakeholders. This should not, however, lead to the dismissal of other channels that contribute to the richness of our information ecosystem.
What do you mean by that?
I am thinking, for example, of the information practices of the younger generation, which are sometimes disparaged. Although they use what we call the ‘traditional’ media less, they rely on other highly relevant sources, such as popular science content, discussion channels, etc, that they find on social networks. These types of content can be complementary to that produced by journalists. They are created under different conditions and outside the traditional journalistic circuit, while closely resembling it in content and even in purpose.
Some media outlets work with the format of reader-reporters. Is journalistic training still necessary?
This is a very interesting subject that can be associated with what has been called participatory journalism. This practice is older than digital, but has accelerated in this context with a growing demand on the part of the public to participate in information gathering. The media quickly saw this need and tried to address it in a variety of ways, such as by using reader-reporters, blogging, etc. But they also saw the risk of giving the impression that there would no longer be a need for trained journalists.
And do we need them?
I am convinced that journalists have an essential place, but they need to better explain their role and added value in a paradoxical context of criticism and questioning, and also recognition of their unique usefulness, as the first weeks of the Covid-19 pandemic showed, with a significant increase in their audiences. To return to participatory journalism, it does not mean that citizens take the place of journalists. Rather, it’s about reflecting together on possible ways of collaborating.
How could that work?
CORRECTIV in Germany is a good example of how citizens can be involved in the production of information, in this case investigations by investigative journalists. The CORRECTIV team has devised ways of bringing together audiences and journalists without mixing genres, with a view to enhancing the value of different voices. This is one of the keys, coupled with a better understanding of what audiences expect and how journalists and media can respond. Research has shown that significant differences exist between the views of journalists and those of citizens. This leads to mutual misunderstanding and distrust. However, focusing on audience expectations does not mean only offering simplistic entertainment content.
Is participatory journalism a form of community management?
Participatory journalism as practised for many years was based on the simple principle of involving people in the production of information; for example, by sending photos, videos, texts, commenting on articles, etc. This view of participatory journalism has led to disillusion on both sides. The renewal of links between journalists and the public today takes new forms: listening, direct exchange, and also an effort by editorial offices, the media and journalists themselves to make their work better known and to explain it. This can be done, for example, by opening the doors of editorial offices.
What does this mean?
Journalists should take more time to properly explain their jobs and their approach: why a particular article was produced, how and why a particular person or institution was contacted and not another. It is therefore a question of making the reader aware of what is involved in the production of information, with its specificities and its constraints. This approach would help to raise awareness of journalism in an accessible way. For journalists, this pushes them to take better account of the society on which they report. It is a form of journalism that aims to improve mutual understanding between citizens on the one hand and journalists and the media on the other.
Could this stop people from turning away from the news media?
Yes. Sometimes we hear that people are no longer interested in information. It is true that there is a certain fatigue when it comes to the news. Some people can not take bad news any more – and in recent years, crises have come thick and fast. However, it is a mistake to believe that people are no longer interested in news and information, that they no longer want to know what is happening around them or in the world. Quite the opposite. Digitisation has greatly expanded access to a multitude of sources. Today, the consumption of information is enormous. On the other hand, access to information through traditional media has reduced. This is where action is needed to re-establish the link. It is essential to remember that these media are a key piece of the information puzzle for those who want to learn about the facts, the opinions that are circulating, the debates and the discussions. It’s too easy to say that people do not look for information any more and that they are turning away from the media. That shifts the responsibility on to consumers of the media. But yes, the link has been partially broken and must be re-established.
But it is precisely because people today use many information channels and get information from social networks that there is a risk of filter bubbles and fake news. Where does Switzerland stand on this subject?
The impact of fake news is worrying, particularly for the mainstream media. However, research shows that we tend to overestimate this phenomenon, both in Switzerland and globally.
‘The media should explain what they are doing.’
Nathalie Pignard-Cheynel
We overestimate fake news?
It is a sensitive issue where personal impressions, along with both public and political discourse, mingle with scientific research. The latter, particularly in the social sciences, shows that this phenomenon is more complex than the idea of a wave of fake news that overwhelms us and mechanically influences us. This is certainly a growing phenomenon, but many studies show that fake news affects and has an impact on a limited circle of people, often via filter bubbles created by algorithms. It reaches people who are already receptive or even convinced by the theories it conveys. That is why we must be careful not to overestimate this phenomenon and unwittingly participate in its amplification.
Is this the case in Switzerland?
Just before the Covid pandemic, we started a study that showed that disinformation was less widespread in Switzerland than in other countries, specifically neighbouring countries. Covid has shaken this observation somewhat with the development, particularly in Switzerland, of various conspiracy theories; for example, those related to vaccination.
How can we fight this fake news?
This is a major challenge for the mainstream media. Fighting fake news must seem to them as futile as trying to empty an ocean with a teaspoon, although that is the core of their job: the search for the truth. Fact-checking, aimed at untangling the true from the false, is a practice that has become increasingly developed within the media. However, in the course of my research, I have found that young people are not very interested in this fact-checking approach. They believe that a subject is often more complex than it appears and that labelling it as true or false is not enough. What interests them is to immerse themselves in the complexity of understanding the phenomenon. Young people expect journalists to show different opinions, explain where fake news comes from and put into perspective the reasons why someone broadcasts it. The media has a lot of work to do in this area. They have already begun to decipher these complex phenomena.
But is there not a risk that fake news will gain credibility if too much attention is paid to it?
Avoiding giving credibility to fake news by trying to verify the facts is indeed a tricky task. Studies, particularly in the US, show that it is precisely when the traditional media tackles fake news that it gains in significance and legitimacy. Even when it comes to questioning fake news and verifying the facts, the subject is paradoxically brought to the forefront. It is through media coverage that fake news reaches the general public, even though it may remain confined to certain circles within the digital space. This is particularly problematic when some politicised media choose to ‘whitewash’ fake news by treating it as conventional news.
What else can the media do to fight fake news?
One strategy that is increasingly being employed, in which the media are participating, is the strengthening of various forms of literacy, with a particular focus on education in media and information literacy. The aim is to help citizens develop a critical view of the content. This is also intended to serve to improve their knowledge of the information factory, how the media work, how they are financed, etc. Lack of knowledge breeds mistrust. The media must explain what they are doing. They must not take trust for granted.
Is this a new thing?
This was already happening in the past, but the recent explosion of information sources means it is more needed than ever now. Faced with a multitude of versions of the same information, we are constantly led to doubt. The media therefore must make their operations transparent. What is their editorial line, how are the subjects chosen, from what angle are they handled? People who are not particularly familiar with the media world have very different ideas of how journalism works. Reaching out to audiences, involving them, can help make people aware that journalism is essential and that the information the media produce is important and relevant.
What is the role of media business owners? Would a foundation be the ideal solution to guarantee independent journalism?
There is debate about state aid for the journalism sector. This is an interesting path, but it requires safeguards, particularly in terms of editorial independence. Transparency needs to be strengthened, in particular in explaining how and by whom information is financed. It is also important to discuss the limits of transparency within the media and with audiences.
What kind of boundaries?
Journalistic work is not, by definition, a transparent act. Some of its principles, such as the protection of sources, may be far from it. Research has also shown that in some cases transparency can disrupt public understanding. It is therefore a practice that could clearly be strengthened in editorial offices, while questioning its implementation and impacts.
Have the media themselves not damaged their own relevance with infotainment?
This assertion defends the idea of political journalism, acting as the fourth power of the state, like a watchdog. This is, of course, a very important task. However, there is no single definition of journalism, but a multitude of versions of journalism. Some forms of journalism, which are more service-oriented, popular and oriented to everyday life, are just as useful and important, in particular for audiences. When considering how to deal with information, I am also convinced that it is possible to address some issues in a very serious way, but with a different tone that may be lighter, more representative, more immersive. These new approaches may lead to a rethinking of the distinction between entertainment and information. This distinction is, of course, crucial, and underpins the work of journalists in producing information. But perhaps we need to look more at building bridges.